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Marina Charpentier: “The therapeutic community is necessary because, an addict, it will only be recovered being saved”

A fragment of the interview with Marina Charpentier (Infobae live)

Marina Charpentier’s mother Chano and of the Bambi guitarist, members of So bionicshe was interviewed today in Infobae live by the Gonzalo Sánchez and his team.

She criticized the lack of policy action against mental and addiction in the country. He pointed out that, although the media gives visibility to the problem, the ’s response is insufficient. “The mental health budget in Argentina is a joke, only 10% of the health budget is allocatedand that there is , ”he said.

For Charpentier, It is not just an economic problem, but also ideological. “The Mental Health Law was created in 2010 without the consultation of psychiatrists or universities. It does not address the reality of families that suffer these diseases,” he said about their concern about the Ley 26.657.

Charpentier, who has a vast experience in the field of mental health, due to his training as a social and his role as a coordinator Hope which accompanies families with people who are going through addiction, highlighted the lack of real attention in the system. “Everything is always ”He said with frustration the interview.

Chano Charpentier with his mother, Marina: “He is very ,” she said

One of the main criticisms that Charpentier formulated was the normative deficiency in this regard. According to her, although the law was promulgated with the intention of protecting the rights of people with mental illnesses, in practice It is not being fulfilled effectively. “There is a law, the Mental Health Law, which should help people with psychiatric problems, but the reality is another,” he explained.

Charpentier explained that the Minister of Health of the Nation, Mario Iván Lugonesy Liliana GonzálezNational Director of Integral Address of Mental Health and Problematic Consumption, “they are taking out the demands from the therapeutic communities because They put so many that they were not enabled “. The ? “A lot of things appeared and, in reality, The therapeutic community, I’m sorry to say, is absolutely necessary, because an addic kid is only going to recover. he has to go through abstinence with people who know the , with colleagues to identify, with people who are already in another stage of evolution and who is clean longer. But that , as much as the psychiatric, is absolutely necessary, ”he said.

In addition, he made special emphasis on the lack of adequate places for the care of people with serious mental illnesses. “If you are going to talk about mental illness, It cannot be that nowhere in the entire law he speaks of patients. There are three basic articles that we want to and, one of them, is the article 20, where he says that It gives the State ten years to close all monovalent hospitals, that is, psychiatric and hospitalization places for people with psychiatric problems. You have to close them, because The spirit of the law is not to stigmatize“He said. And he exemplified:” It’s as if you had cancer, so me, not to stigmatize you, I close all attention because I can’t say you’re a cancer patient. Let’s see, Why can the liver, kidney, heart and brain get sick?“He reasoned.

Laura Bonaparte Hospital, unique
Laura Bonaparte Hospital, unique at the national level of mental health, which the government intervened

And he asked: “Why do you have to close the places of attention for people with this mental problem?”, To which he replied: “Because It is not just addiction, which is very serious, let’s take charge that we are a country of consumption and traffic of cocaine and traffic But, in addition, there are a lot of with boys, with schizophrenia, with adolescents, with schizophrenia, with adults with schizophrenia that have nowhere to intern them. ”

According to her, “A mental illness is a vertical patient, a guy who needs to walk, shout, run, smoking, sing. You cannot be lying on a bed with a hospital next to a parturient or someone who operated on the appendix. So how is it done to have him lying? Because the hospital lacks the place to have it. So They make him and have it there and then they leave him. We must invest, we need beds in places, such as Borda and Moyano that have very valuable land to make buildings, “he said.

And he reported the difficult case he witnessed in Congress, where a man told the difficult situation he is going through when he cares for his schizophrenic daughter. “This man crying shouted a judge: ‘You have the idea of ​​what it is to live with a schizophrenic daughter, when you have nowhere to take it because the Same tells you that you cannot do anything‘”, Said Charpentier, showing the helplessness of many families in the face of the shortage of resources.

Another of the key issues that Charpentier touched was the growing consumption of substances among young people and their impact on mental health. “There is a biological 50% that has to do that you bring genetically and a trend that has to do with the chemistry of your brain,” he said.

Chano’s mother recalled the most difficult moments when facing her son’s addiction. “The first I saw a rest of marijuana at the light table, I immediately asked for help”, Confessed. For her, given the minimum suspicion, it is best to look for guidance, without waiting for the problem to be aggravated.

Despite the multiple hospitalizations of the singer, outpatient treatments, relapses and rehabilitation, he stressed that, Today, his musician son has been without relapses for more than two years, an that he considers positive. “Chano is very good. It is only for today, and we are very grateful for that. He is working on his music, recording an album, and that gives us a lot of hope, ”he said.

Children's ludopathy, a scourge
Children’s ludopathy, a growing scourge in Argentina (Infobae Illustrative Image)

In addition, he stressed that evil is drug trafficking, synthetic drugs and, above all, Children’s ludopathy. “You do not know the amount of consultations that are for boys who are making bets, betting money and borrowing their family by 10 million. The boys are being manipulated and attracted, They are asked for 100 thousand pesos because they know that they can then take 10 sticks. The boys today are betting, stealing cards for parents to continue playing. Then you don’t have to fall, or play if you don’t want to You don’t have to bet more that they are offering you the money To bet“He warned the youngest.

And, under every aspect, Charpentier stressed that Prevention is fundamental from an early age. “At age six you have to start talking to children. Do you know what marijuana is? What is alcohol?”

In addition, Chano’s mother separated the consumption phase with the addiction. “Not everyone who consumes is an addict, It may not have entered the unit, it may be that it uses or abuses but that it is not dependent. When you are already in the dependency stage, You are seeing your child suicide in quotas. Obviously, we all know that a cocaine pass can give you a stroke or a heart attack, or a psychotic outbreak, “he remarked vehemently.

Despite the difficulties, Charpentier offered a message of hope, highlighting the importance of creating a “counterculture of good.” Through your organization Hope familyMarina works to generate spaces where families can find support. “So as outside we have all that of evil trying to turn our children into customers, the game, of consumption, of whatever, well, The counterculture of good must be done, we must unite for good“, And so counteract” how bad it is, drug trafficking, game. ”

Charpentier also emphasized that the must be continuous and should involve both parents and institutions. “It is essential to talk to them directly, without caution. You have to prevent, show them what is outside, what they can , because many times the boys do not understand it until it is already late,” he added.

This social worker recently participated in the book They are not crazywritten by Paola Vicenziwhere he shared part of his , as a mother who has faced his son’s addiction. Charpentier was very excited to talk about the book, which he considers a “service” for all families that are going through similar situations.

Paola Vicenzi, the author of
Paola Vicenzi, the author of “Equis balance” and “are not crazy”, where Charpentier tells her story

The work not only narrates Charpentier’s experience, but also collects the stories of other families, to whom Vicenzi gave them a voice, with the aim of creating a valuable resource for those who seek support. “The book is a service because it allows us to accompany those who are going through the same. I always say it: nobody knows what this is to live until you live it. And this book helps those who are suffering can understand that they are not alone, ”said Charpentier.

On how the idea of ​​the book was born, Charpentier explained: “Paola Vicenzi had written an extraordinary book on mental health called Equis balanceand I contacted her on Instagram. I said: ‘I came to the group and wrote another book’. And that’s how this project was born. ”

“The stories are very strong, the most emblematic, the most difficult, but they are also a testimony of hope,” he said. The book includes a glossary with terms related to mental healthas well as a contact resources guide for those who need assistance, such as emergency telephones and psychological support services.

The note with Marina Charpentier, the mother of Chano and Bambi, members of such bionic (Infobae live)

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